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诺格巴的沉默之刃(Norgorber’s Silent Shiv) 出自神圣选集《Divine Anthology》,30页
被称为“收割者之手”(Reaper's Hand)的神圣武器技法是内海地区最难以捉摸的战术。
可选替换能力:一个中立邪恶,信仰诺格巴的至少二级的游荡者可以将一个盗贼天赋换取本技法的基础奖励。
基础奖励:每当你攻击一个完全没发现到你的对手(例如当你使用潜行或隐形时),你攻击造成的伤害增大一级,就像你使用更大一级武器时一样。这个好处只适用于你对目标进行的第一次攻击,而且只适用于你使用轻型或单手武器进行攻击(包括投掷武器)。
进阶先决条件:神圣武器技法,潜行10级   申明:PFS禁用该技法的进阶奖励
可选替换能力:一个中立邪恶,信仰诺格巴的至少十级的游荡者可以将一个高等盗贼天赋换取本技法的进阶奖励,即使他们未满足先决条件。
进阶奖励:在每一轮开始时,选择一个你可以看到的对手,并以一个迅捷动作尝试一次潜行鉴定。如果你的检定结果超出了目标的CMD,那么对于这个目标,你可以应用该技法的基础奖励,就如同它完全没发现到你的存在一样。如果你的检定结果超过目标的CMD达5或更多,那么你也可以应用你的所有职业特性和专长效果,就如同它完全没发现到你的存在一样。


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Norgorber’s Silent Shiv

Source Divine Anthology pg. 30
Entombed within a volume known as The Reaper’s Hand, the divine fighting techniques of Norgorber are among the most elusive in the Inner Sea region, but are theorized to cover the techniques that acolytes of Father Skinsaw use to move and strike unseen. Copies of this manual are rare, and those who spill its secrets to anyone unworthy often meet a swift and bloody end at the hands of the faith’s inquisitors.

Optional Replacement: A neutral evil rogue of at least 2nd level who worships Norgorber can replace a rogue talent with the following initial benefit.

Initial Benefit: Whenever you attack an opponent that is completely unaware of your presence (such as when you are using the Stealth skill or invisible), your attack deals damage as if you were one size category larger. This benefit applies only to the first attack that you make against the target, and only with attacks made with light or one-handed weapons intended for creatures of your size (including thrown attacks).

Advanced Prerequisites: Divine Fighting Technique, Stealth 10 ranks.

Optional Replacement: A neutral evil rogue of at least 10th level who worships Norgorber can replace an advanced rogue talent with the following advanced benefit without meeting its prerequisites.

Advanced Benefit: At the start of each round, choose one opponent that you can see and attempt a Stealth check as a swift action. If the result of your check exceeds the target’s CMD, treat the target as if it were completely unaware of your presence for the purpose of the initial benefit of this divine fighting technique. If you beat the target’s CMD by 5 or more, you also treat it as being completely unaware of your presence for the purposes of all class features and feats you have.


若一名俠客對用迅捷動作對敵人發動本專長效果後成功超過5,則在判斷职业特性和专长效果時,可視為敵人完全沒有發現俠客的存在-這樣就符合了俠客d8暗襲的條件:
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A stalker gains an ability called hidden strike, which allows him to deal an extra 1d8 points of precision damage on melee attacks (or ranged attacks from within 30 feet) against foes who are unaware of his presence, who consider him an ally, or who are made flat-footed by startling appearance (see page 17). This extra damage increases by 1d8 at 3rd level and every 2 vigilante levels thereafter. A stalker vigilante can also deal hidden strike damage to a target that he is flanking or that is denied its Dexterity bonus to AC, but in these cases, the damage dice are reduced to d4s. A stalker can deal hidden strike damage against targets with concealment (but not total concealment).

那麼我的問題是,當俠客使用全力攻擊並已經打中其中一下之後,剩下的攻擊是否能打出暗襲傷害?
A.敵人被攻擊的當下已經意識到你了,所以不行。
B.敵人是被當作不知道你的存在(treat the target as if...)來判斷職業特性是否觸發,所以暗襲傷害照舊。

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Re: 对于未意识到你存在的敌人发动多次攻击怎么判?
« 回帖 #1 于: 2020-11-19, 周四 18:06:31 »
这个专长没有改变一般规则,未知存在这个状态第一次现身后就失效。
你想要的东西理论上存在,就是侠客5级的能力而已……
见证了丢人的币+1

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Re: 对于未意识到你存在的敌人发动多次攻击怎么判?
« 回帖 #2 于: 2020-11-19, 周四 18:16:40 »
这个专长没有改变一般规则,未知存在这个状态第一次现身后就失效。
你想要的东西理论上存在,就是侠客5级的能力而已……

哈哈  居然忘了5級能力有這個敘述...我傻了