听资深人士shipiaozi说德鲁伊被严重低估了

[强生]

用CR20的人物来和CR1/4到CR20的怪物的平均做比较吗……

You know, I think the designer has insisted that you can throw CR1 mobs to "challenge" Lv20 PCs.

Well, to be fair, they didn't say one mob would be challenging.  Pre-release they gave an example of how 100 mob can defeat a mid tier character.
So, I guess if you throw out 10000 CR1/4 mobs, it may still be challenging in the sense that it should drain measurable resources off the wizard.
In fact this should gives the low level mob a pretty high weight in the "average".

What, how about Warlocks? They would still be using their trusty, unlimited cantrip.

Well, the question is who will send 10000 mobs to kill a Lv20?

Let's see some data.

To make a medium encounter for a Lv20 wiz/wlc, you'll need 57~84 kobolds. With their AC12,HP5, they'll be killed by one 3rd-level fireball or one beam of warlock cantrip.

While both wiz and wlc will use their 9th-level spell, it's reasonable to say there's only a 1/400 chance for warlock to miss her target, which can be ignored. So, a Lv20 "pure" warlock can kill at least 4 kobolds in one round.

And wizard will use her fireballs, bigger fireballs and bigger bigger fireballs. A fireball can always cover 4 kobolds? Let alone the warlock have a range of 300 ft., or in most cases, 600ft.

So that's the truth: warlocks do better in dealing with a few powerful enemies, and wizards do better (still no better than sor) in dealing with a great numbers of weak enemies, if the formation of those weaklings is really tight.

Then here's the question: Which DM will send a crowd of kobolds against a Lv20 character?

DM：I just bought a new game called Dynasty Warrior D&D.

[dnlas]

那個啥。100哥布林要戰鬥到甚麼時候? 光投骰都投到手抽筋了吧?(5E有 swarm模板 或是 大規模戰鬥規則嗎?)

3R確實會準備一堆 CR低的可憐但是會自爆的骷髏群來欺負沒有牧師的隊伍。(PF 也可以，而且病疫殭屍似乎不提高CR...)

就不知道5E會不會這樣搞就是了。 不過即便是這樣，骷髏的數量也不會多到那麼誇張。畢竟每個骷髏要分開處理很麻煩，5E還有反應動作，也就是每個骷髏動作都要等PC回應才能繼續。

[傻豆]

你们为何还要继续钓鱼，准备看明天一人回复挑一楼吗

[道是无常]

我也感觉这贴快成钓鱼贴了……双方都认为在对牛弹琴有何意义呢，不如开心跑自己的团，觉得啥职业厉害爱用就用呗

BTW：羊姐姐你肯定是故意的！

[大卫之星]

……我拼命看完了果园姐姐们的8级回复！
（捏个啥……我不是钓鱼的额……/me 对shipiaozi和果园姐姐们说

[强生]

你们为何还要继续钓鱼，准备看明天一人回复挑一楼吗

奈奈子已经道出过真理了，因为大家生活/工作/学业不饱和所以闲啊
其实争的最欢的几位和shipiaozi中选一个开团剩下的车卡跑团没准最后就是好基友了？

[Zero Line]

* Zero Line 虽然不是很明白~

“你们确定你们不是在霸凌吗~ ，萌宠的存在价值就是时常给大家刷刷时髦和存在感优越感之类的，你们霸凌的太过了以后就没得玩了 ”

[bedivere]

你们为何还要继续钓鱼，准备看明天一人回复挑一楼吗

奈奈子已经道出过真理了，因为大家生活/工作/学业不饱和所以闲啊
其实争的最欢的几位和shipiaozi中选一个开团剩下的车卡跑团没准最后就是好基友了？

为什么看起来有种暴君的感觉!?“吃了这一炮，我们就是好姬友了”

[snowknight]

其实法师有智力装可节省大把属性点这一点完胜战锁、术士吧。。。。。。。。

[星踪幻影]

其实法师有智力装可节省大把属性点这一点完胜战锁、术士吧。。。。。。。。

不能的，那个奇葩BUY。。